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ONE-ON-ONE - December 2001
by Ed G. Lane

'Family Courts are the Greatest Innovation in Kentucky Law in a Quarter Century'
The Commonwealth's judge discusses the court system's importance

Chief Justice Joseph E. Lambert
A native of Mt. Vernon, Ky., Joseph E. Lambert was elected to the Supreme Court of Kentucky in 1986 and in 1998 was elected by his colleagues as chief justice.

Among his many honors, Lambert has received the Distinguished Alumni Award from the University of Louisville School of Law, Outstanding Judge of Kentucky (Kentucky Bar Association, 2000), and the 2001 Kentucky Public Advocate Award.

Lambert also serves on a number of boards across the state and was recently elected to the board of directors of the National Association of Drug Court Professionals and the National Conference of Chief Justices.

He is chairman of the board for Rockcastle Hospital and Respiratory Care Center and the Kentucky Judicial Retirement System.

Lambert and his wife, Debra, live in Mt. Vernon with their two sons, ages 17 and 10.



Ed Lane: You have served three years as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. During that period of time, what have been the top issues facing the Kentucky judicial system?

Joseph Lambert: As you know, the chief justice not only serves as a justice of the court but also serves as the executive head of the Court of Justice. I assume your question relates to the executive part of the position as opposed to cases that are decided by the Court. The top three issues during my tenure have been and are the Family Court Constitutional Amendment, whereby the court is seeking approval of a constitutional amendment that will expand the family court statewide.

A second and very important issue is the construction and capital improvement of court facilities all across Kentucky. During the three years that I have been Chief Justice, we have completed 10 or so courthouses, and about 35 new construction or extensive renovation courthouse projects are now underway.

The third area in terms of importance has been the expansion of the number of judges in Kentucky. For years, Kentucky had too few judges, which simply meant that many people with very important cases in court had to wait. Since 1996 there are 34 additional judges in Kentucky.

EL: With regard to the family court, more and more people are getting divorced and there are also domestic relation issues involving families. What exactly will the constitutional amendment do to help make the court system better for families in Kentucky?

JL: As it is right now, the court has a pilot family court project that was designed by my predecessor – the former Chief Justice Bob Stevens and others – to see how effectively family courts would work. The family court started in Jefferson County and was later expanded to other parts of the state. After 10 years of experience, we are absolutely convinced that family courts do improve the quality and the responsiveness of the court system to families and children in need of help with family law issues. Family courts observe the concept of one family, one judge, so that the same judge sees a particular family with their problems again and again, whenever they come into the court system. And finally, the family courts make extensive use of social services such as drug and alcohol counseling, anger management counseling, and a divorce education program that attempts to teach parents how to deal with one another in the period after their divorce is over.

EL: Going through a divorce is time consuming and it’s very expensive, particularly if it is contested and attorneys are involved. Will the family court system improve on this situation?

JL: It probably will. Family courts, in general, speed up the process, and of course the more rapidly the process can be accomplished, the less is required in terms of attorney’s fees. And I fully recognize that attorney’s fees associated with divorce cases can be extremely burdensome on the parties involved. In addition to potential cost savings, family courts actually deliver better justice in terms of the quality of the judicial product. I hesitate to describe it in those type of terms, but the outcomes are often better. The parties come away from the divorce, if that’s what it amounts to, with a better relationship; and with the idea of improving the long-term relationships between parents and their children, as well as the former spouse.

EL: Would a family court judge be required to make a ruling within a certain period of time so that there would not be significant delays caused by the court?

JL: We have a court rule, applicable to all cases, that requires judges to rule on cases that are finally submitted to them within 90 days of the date of submission. I’m happy to say that most judges observe that rule scrupulously. In circumstances where the judge fails to rule within that 90 day period, the rules require the judge to inform the chief justice of the reasons why he or she has not ruled within the time required by law.

EL: If a judge is taking a long time to make a ruling, what exactly can the affected parties do to notify the court about the delay?

JL: The court has a procedure whereby I, as chief justice, write the judge a letter and inform him that a particular case appears to have been submitted to him or her for an inordinate amount of time. Generally, the lawyers are the ones who bring delays to my attention. And I request the judge to write back and inform me why that case is taking so long. Normally that’s all it takes. The letter usually results in a prompt ruling from that judge and the matter is concluded with that. In aggravated circumstances, however, a case or a charge can be brought against a judge before the Judicial Conduct Commission, which is empowered to reprimand, suspend or even remove a judge from office for aggravated behavior of one kind or another, and that would include excessive delays in ruling on cases.

EL: Because attorneys often practice before the same judge and parties to a case may from time to time have other cases coming before the judge, do you feel that this system works effectively?

JL: You have identified, and quite rightly, what I would regard as an inherent defect in the court system. Quite frankly, lawyers are reluctant to complain about delays caused by the judge. Parties are reluctant, clerks are reluctant, because they all work very closely with the judges. So, it’s an imperfect system, and I’m the first to recognize the imperfections in it. But we have struggled to come up with a better system, and have, thus far, been unable to do that.

EL: You indicated that approximately 35 new courthouses are under construction or renovation. Since the attack on the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, have there been significant changes in the design of courthouses to make them more safe and less subject to damage from terrorist attacks.

JL: We’re acutely aware of the dangers associated with courthouses. People often come to court when their emotion, their level of anger, is at its very highest. They may be emotionally overwrought and pose a danger to themselves or others. The court feels an obligation to do its very best to make sure that the environment is as safe as it can be. There are some practical realities. Court security costs money and we simply do not have the money to go back and refit and bring all of our older courthouses up to today’s standards. With new construction, such as we have in Fayette, Kenton, Jefferson, Hardin and other counties, the new courthouses are designed with security in mind.

EL: In some areas of the state, the court has one judge for a three- or four-county circuit and in other counties one county may have multiple judges. Where has the court been adding new judges?

JL: New judges are added based on case load statistics. Case load statistics don’t always tell the whole story, but it is the best data that we have. Some account of travel requirements is also considered in judicial circuits that consist of three, and in a few cases even four, different counties and there is only one judge.

EL: What is the Court’s position about attorneys making contributions to judicial candidates and/or being solicited by judges to support their campaigns?

JL: In Kentucky, we have a long tradition of electing our judges. While some states select judges by executive or legislative appointment, Kentucky citizens appear to be committed to preserving their right to select their judges.

Our system provides for non-partisan judicial elections. We endeavor to eliminate partisan politics from the process. Nevertheless, candidates, including judges, must have funds to wage their campaigns. Otherwise, the judiciary would be the exclusive domain of the wealthy. Attorneys are treated no differently than other citizens. They are entitled to participate by making donations to judicial candidates as is every other citizen. Judges are forbidden, however, from directly soliciting campaign funds from any person, including attorneys. Solicitations are made on behalf of the judge or judicial candidate by committees of responsible persons.

EL: Funds for operation of the Judicial Branch are provided by the State Legislature. Do you envision any funding problems since the state’s revenue is projected to fall below estimates and the budget will be cut?

JL: The Governor’s office asked the Judicial Branch to reduce its appropriations during the last fiscal year ending on June 30, 2001. Prior to that time the governor had requested that the Court of Justice reduce its current appropriations, basically as much as we could. Even though it’s a separate branch of government, the court accommodated that request from the governor and voluntarily reduced its appropriations by one million dollars. During the current fiscal year, we have received another request from the governor’s budget director to reduce the court’s current appropriated funds. And I can say to you, categorically, that the court will accommodate that request to the greatest possible extent. I often tell people that at all times the court wants the executive and the legislative branches of state government to know that the judiciary is on the team. The court recognizes its responsibility to participate in the budget cuts and budget reductions right along with other branches and agencies of state government, just as we expect to participate when times are good.

EL: There’s been some talk, out on the stump, that you might be a potential Republican candidate for governor; please comment on that.

JL: I have heard those rumors and reports and read a few news stories in which my name was mentioned in that regard. I can say this to you, I have done nothing and am doing nothing to generate that type of discussion. What I am doing, is I’m traveling a lot, I’m making a lot of speeches and appearances of one kind or another on behalf of the family court constitutional amendment. That necessarily takes me before a lot of Rotary and Kiwanis type groups; it also takes me before significant statewide groups such as the KEA, the Kentucky Farm Bureau, the Burley Tobacco Growers Cooperative Association, and the Kentucky Rural Electric Cooperatives. So, I am traveling a lot on behalf of the Family Court constitutional amendment. In fact, I certainly have not ruled anything in or out in terms of any future plans.

EL: Is there any additional issue that you think is important to the judicial system.

JL: Without being unduly repetitive, the 10-year experience with family courts in Kentucky has been an unqualified success. In my judgement, family courts are the greatest innovation in Kentucky law in a quarter century. For the first time ever, courts are giving their undivided attention to children and families in their legal difficulties. I know of nothing presently concerning the court system that is more important than ratification of the family court constitutional amendment, and that will be on the general election ballot in November of 2002.

EL: Excluding traffic court, I presume there are three general categories of cases – civil litigation, criminal cases, and family/domestic relation issues. What percentage are family court issues?

JL: In general, I would say that family law matters, viewed as broadly as can be, would represent at least a third and maybe as much as 45 percent of the case load of Kentucky courts. One benefit of family courts that I hadn’t mentioned previously is this: When a family court comes into being and takes away all the family law issues, that of course frees a lot of time that circuit judges and district judges would otherwise devote to those kinds of cases. So criminal cases get faster attention in court. Civil cases, which are very important to the parties, get quicker and better attention. It’s a system that generally improves the administration of justice to take family law cases out of the normal circuit court and district court mix and give those types of cases a court and a judge who does nothing else.

EL: What is the possibility of redistricting Kentucky courts to improve the efficiency of the court?

JL: Our judicial circuits in Kentucky are based on long, long history and tradition. It’s very difficult to change judicial circuits, despite the changes that have occurred in population. My predecessor, Bob Stevens, whom I mentioned earlier, found after exploring the political reality of it, that it was essentially undoable, because of the number of people and the number of powerful people affected by that were just too many and the potential opposition was more than could be hoped to overcome. I suspect a good argument could be made that a comprehensive re-circuiting plan would result in the most effective use of our judicial personnel in Kentucky. But, I return of course, to the original thought that this is something that is politically undoable, and thus we have to do the best we can by adding a judge where and when we can.

EL: Is having more than one judge in a judicial circuit a benefit if a conflict of interest issue should arise?

JL: You’re exactly right about that, there is that benefit. And it often comes about, the judge will have had maybe some knowledge of disputed facts will have had a relationship of some kind with a party, and will find it necessary under the code of judicial conduct to recuse himself or herself. And that makes it very handy to have another judge in that same circuit to whom the case can be handed.

EL: Under the court’s ethics guidelines, are judges, if they have a relationship whether it be business, personal, family, whatever, obligated to disclose the relationships?

JL: It’s not easily stated. Judges have a duty to recuse themselves based on certain types of relationships. Kinship, of course, is one of those. Former representation would be one of those. Knowledge of disputed facts, in other words, if a judge happened to be the witness to an accident, where he would have an opinion of the facts. The broad catch-all is that a judge should recuse himself or herself whenever impartiality might be reasonably questioned based on whatever the factor is. If a judge’s impartiality could be questioned then that judge has a duty to get out of the case.

EL: Have there been any recent final rulings by the Kentucky Supreme Court which have had a major impact on Kentucky law?

JL: As the highest court in Kentucky, all Supreme Court decisions are binding precedent and thus have a significant impact on Kentucky law. It is difficult to single out particular decisions as being more important or less important than others. However, the Supreme Court has recently refined Kentucky law in the area of sovereign immunity, an area of considerable interest to state and local government. We have also addressed punitive damages cases, significant criminal cases, attorney discipline cases, and family law cases that are of widespread interest and legal significance. All newly rendered Kentucky Supreme Court decisions are on the Court of Justice web site within a few days of the rendition date. The web address is www.kycourts.net.


Ed G. Lane
is chief executive of Lane Consultants Inc. and publisher of The Lane Report.
edlane@lanereport.com

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