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ONE-ON-ONE - May 2003
by Ed G. Lane

'...What We Do Today Is Not Good Enough for Tomorrow'
Kentucky's Commissioner of Education discusses the future of education in the Commonwealth

Gene Wilhoit
Gene Wilhoit was named Kentucky’s third Commissioner of Education in September 2000. As chief executive of the Kentucky Department of Education, Wilhoit supervises approximately 800 employees in Frankfort and across the state and oversees an annual budget of $3.1 billion. The department provides assistance and resources to nearly 1,300 schools across the state’s 176 districts.

A native of Tennessee, Wilhoit began his education career as a teacher in Ohio before becoming the program director for the Indiana Department of Public Instruction. He was later named as executive director of the National Association of State Boards of Education and Special Assistant in the U.S. Department of Education. He was chief state school officer for the Arkansas Department of Education before coming to Kentucky in 1997 as deputy commissioner for the Bureau of Learning Support Services.



Ed Lane: The 2003 General Assembly recently passed the budget for the Commonwealth (fiscal years ending 6/30/03 and 6/30/04). Were you satisfied with the appropriation for the Department of Education?

Gene Wilhoit: To be blunt, no. Given the decision by the General Assembly that there would be no new tax revenues in the short term, education was taken care of better than most programs in state government. I want to acknowledge that.

The education appropriation does provide relief money in fiscal years ’03 and ‘04. That money is targeted for increases in teachers’ salaries. There also was a requirement to provide additional resources for the support staff. Getting money to increase salaries was most helpful.

EL: So teachers and support people will receive a 2.7 percent raise?

GW: That’s correct. The pay raise is based on a $40,000 per year average salary and is $1,080. That means a teacher with less experience would get more than 2.7 percent; a teacher with more than a $40,000 range will get less. This formula was a deliberate decision on the part of the legislature because they felt Kentucky was losing ground on beginning teacher’s salaries and not as competitive as it ought to be with surrounding states. The legislators were right about that.

Rather than being in a position of either having to reduce jobs, increase student ratios, or move forward with no teacher salary increases, the legislature was able to avoid those options by putting more money into the system.

EL: In what areas do you feel the budget will compromise the Department of Education?

GW: When the legislature made the decision that there would be no more tax revenues, then the source of new money had to come from somewhere. The way that money was generated was to take it from what were judged “less critical” services. And I think a couple of the programs that were eliminated or reduced will have a negative long-term impact. Specifically, the legislature did not provide funds for the rewards program that we’ve had in place for the last few years. How much impact will that have on the morale of schools that are working hard? The legislature also removed resources for management assistance and regional service centers. Eliminating programs we have had over the years will be negative, but it’s yet to be seen how dramatic the effect will be.

EL: What is the outlook for the next fiscal year?

GW: The first projections from the governor’s office were that Kentucky’s economy still lags behind expectations. I’ve advised our schools to plan conservatively. If the state does not make its projections for revenue, then the Department of Education stands the possibility that what was given may have to be taken back. The revenue issues create a most important public policy discussion: Do the citizens in the state feel that it’s more important to find additional resources to support elementary and secondary education than not to raise taxes?

EL: At the local school district level, how do revenues received from the state impact the quality of education?

GW: Kentucky’s system of funding – Support Educational Excellence in Kentucky (SEEK) – is a combination of state and local resources. A guaranteed minimum amount of money goes to our schools from the state. Those districts that have the highest level of poverty get more money. In essence, the state equalizes educational opportunities for children across the Commonwealth. Wolfe County, for example, gets approximately 75 percent from the state and 25 percent from the local level. On the other hand, Anchorage would get 75 percent generated from the local level and 25 percent from the state.

EL: Approximately, what is the per student amount?

GW: The guaranteed minimum base per student in Kentucky was $3,066 for the last school year, we’re increasing that to about $3,180 this year.

EL: Is that the combined total from local and state expended per student?

GW: No, the total amount of money expended per child is above $6,000. That includes only state and local money. Federal funds cannot be used to achieve the state’s minimum commitment to education. If a community has a lot of poor kids, children with disabilities, or depressed economic circumstances where children receive free and reduced lunch programs, federal programs support those efforts.

EL: How closely does the Department of Education work on the budget with the General Assembly?

GW: Very closely. We work with the General Assembly in terms of setting initial projections. We are really a primary part of their deliberation. Members of our staff are the individuals they call on to justify the figures we produce.

EL: Who are the key “go to” people in the Kentucky House and Senate? Do you normally deal with House Speaker Jody Richards and Senate President David Williams?

GW: We work not only with the two leadership positions, but also with the two most critical individuals – Richie Sanders, chair of the Senate Appropriations & Revenue Committee and Harry Moberly, who chairs the House’s same committee. It’s important they understand the full details. Harry Moberly was there when they wrote the SEEK formula and knows every detail of it. Richie Sanders has been a fast study. He’s been a wonderful partner during the last few years.

The other principal actor in the legislative process is obviously the governor’s office. Our department’s first effort goes to the governor’s office before it goes to the legislature. The governor has points of view about all these issues and we try to reflect those in how we work with the legislature. We also interact with his staff on a regular basis because it’s important for us not to come forward with something that they have no knowledge about. So, we regularly brief the executive branch.

EL: Would you support expanded legalized gambling if a substantial portion of the money went to the Department of Education?

GW: Philosophically, taking money from citizens to support education through gambling has sort of a mixed message to our children. It’s not a dependable, long-term source of revenue that we can count on. The issue about taxing tobacco is easier for me to deal with. First of all, we don’t want our children smoking as minors. A number of educational programs encourage them to not do so. Taking tobacco revenues, philosophically, aligns the Department of Education with where we want kids to go.

EL: Kentucky’s population growth rate is less than one percent annually and the state’s population is estimated to increase about 30,000 persons per year over the next five years. Much of this growth is in Lexington, Louisville, Northern Kentucky and Bowling Green. At the same time population is declining in a number of rural counties. What impact is this having on K-12 education?

GW: It has tremendous impact. In essence, we’re managing two systems of education in Kentucky. We’ve got an expanding economy in the “Golden Triangle” which attracts families, and an inward movement of population base. Growth also brings with it higher demands in those communities for high quality education and new facilities.

At the same time, we have had a 10-year downward population trend in Eastern Kentucky. It puts those school districts in a very different mindset. First of all, they’re going to receive less money each year because our formula is based on the number of students that are in the school district. Before they begin to think about education programs, the district is thinking about having to reduce staff and with that comes a reduction in support services. The irony is that students in counties with declining population are the most impacted students in Kentucky. While resources for those schools are decreasing, the students remaining are needing additional support. The impact of high growth and declining school districts permeates all the decisions the department makes – and creates additional expenses for Kentucky’s educational system.

EL: What ongoing benefit does Kentucky Education Reform Act (KERA) have on Kentucky’s education program?

GW: The environment in Kentucky is very different than it was during the first years of the reform. KERA concepts are well accepted at this point and are positive for Kentucky. The first concept is that student learning is the basis for making judgments about a school’s effectiveness. The second is whether the system has had continuous progress or not. That leads to a culture in Kentucky that what we do today is not good enough for tomorrow. Having the public engaged in that conversation and educators focused on that issue is positive.

EL: When George Bush was running for president, his initiative was to test students to determine the effectiveness of the educational system. That’s one of the things KERA has been doing for over a decade. Is testing similar to market research?

GW: Testing is very close to the best practice in business. You assess the results of labor, you identify specific deficits in your operational plan, you make adjustments on a regular basis, you monitor that progress and you put the resources where you can produce the maximum. In order to do that, you’ve got to test. Education has got to have some objective measure of its effectiveness.

EL: Should KERA be modified to reflect significant changes in technology and the growth of the Internet?

GW: Our schools are not where we want to be in terms of using technology as an instructional tool. However, Kentucky can be proud that it has advanced in this area.

The next frontier for Kentucky is to make sure that technology is not a fringe, but an integral part of the thinking process.

EL: Can you envision a day when Kentucky will have a paperless classroom?

GW: I can. In fact, I’m talking with one of our school districts today about portable technology for each of their students. They’re considering using laptops as the new textbooks. Walk into our schools’ media centers today and you will see the books on shelves and technology in the same room. And guess where the kids are – they’re right there with the computers. And I have never been in a school where there are discipline problems around technology.

EL: Are there any other new initiatives you’re undertaking to improve education in Kentucky?

GW: We’re looking at redesigning the high school experience. Why can’t young people access learning programs through technology? Our virtual high school offers a whole series of programs students can engage in and receive credit for outside the school environment. We’ve developed agreements with the Kentucky Community & Technical College System so high school students who are ready can move into a more advanced curriculum much earlier than they have in the past. I envision that the junior / senior year is going to look very different. In fact, I’d say it will be much less formalized in terms of the number of courses and much more individualized as students begin to branch out for the next level of education.

EL: Do you envision an NBA-like draft where junior and senior high school students could be drafted for colleges and universities because their learning skills and test scores are exceptional?

GW: You’d always have to consider whether younger students are ready socially to move into that environment. But students could be kept in a high school environment and also move into college curriculum. Little pieces of that are in place. For example, a Jefferson County school district has a number of students who are working directly with scientists and researchers at the University of Louisville on real research projects. There’s no reason why those opportunities couldn’t be available to any child who could demonstrate a capacity to move ahead at an accelerated level. In the same context, there are students who are bored silly but who could be highly challenged if they got into a direct mentorship with a corporation. Students could move into employment status with a corporation as they advance through their learning programs.

EL: UPS’ Metro College in Louisville creates an opportunity for students who can’t afford to go to school – they can work for UPS and earn their way through college.

GW: It’s a wonderful program and has been very successful.

Kentucky has a really aggressive community and technical college system (KCTCS) that came out of the ’97 reform. I don’t know the specifics yet, but I know that KCTCS is open to those kinds of opportunities and expect it will create similar opportunities in Kentucky that are going to be tremendous!

EL: What other innovations in education do you perceive?

GW: You’re going to see a system that assesses very early a child’s developmental levels and intervenes if a problem is identified. Toward that end, we’re dealing with this issue of literacy and reading capacity at the younger ages. Daviess County has developed high technology assessment systems that help teachers diagnose individual problems in kindergarten, first and second grade. These assessment procedures pinpoint the difficulties very precisely. In most cases, there’s a hearing/interpretation problem or there’s a learning difference in that child. I recently visited a center in Daviess county that had five different technology instruments there where they were working with the students to overcome learning deficiencies. In the future we may have that kind of sophistication in every one of our schools so that we don’t pass students along with problems that will impede their future learning.

EL: What about high school dropouts?

GW: We know that the traditional structure is not conducive to some students to stay in school. Kentucky can’t afford an 18 per cent loss ratio in our student body and that’s what we have right now. So, you’re going to see some alternative programming structures come into place.

EL: Have you ever considered privatization of schools or school vouchers if schools are failing to adequately educate students?

GW: Kentucky has one of the best systems of intervention in the country for low performing schools and we have a good record of turning those schools around. There’s a very small pool of schools that remain in low status over time. We go into those schools with full-time people who have a strong agenda for improvement. We’re seeing those turn around.

EL: How many interventions do you have going on?

GW: We’re working with 29 schools right now that are below the level of expectation. We have full-time staff in those schools (from the state). These are state personnel that are assigned to those schools to bring about improvement.

EL: So that kind of takes away the privatization or school voucher issue here in Kentucky.

GW: Kentucky has moved toward site-based decision making. We’ve vested a lot of authority in our schools that has traditionally rested on the district level. The hiring of staff, control of the budget, their whole professional development program, all of these decisions, the curriculum, instructional program that’s developed, are site-based decisions in Kentucky. Although we have room for improvement in a lot of those site-based councils, the fact that we’ve moved toward vesting authority in parents and with teachers at a school building has given parents an option in Kentucky that doesn’t exist in other states. In fact, Kentucky is the only state that’s given that authority to the school building.

 


Ed G. Lane
is chief executive of Lane Consultants Inc. and publisher of The Lane Report.
edlane@lanereport.com

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